malaGCPahije
07-25 11:07 AM
I know before you start blaming me for this thread, as it is of no use, I would like to point out that most of you must be experiencing the same thing. I didn't care much for Visa bulletin until it became current for EB2 two weeks back. As the time progress, I am doing all sorts of things, like checking USCIS case status, and checking everything that can possibly give me some information. I know that it is waste of time, I know it is not good for health, I know that I will get GC when time comes, but still, my mind is tricking me to think about it. I checked all these forums until 2A.M last night. I am not having enough sleep. I am waiting for a opportunity to get rid of my desi employer. I am really getting frustrated (I am not saying that I have been waiting for GC approval desperately). I just want to share my frustration and what I have been going through. I know I am in a better position than most of other people whose priority date is not even current. I wish they never dangled a carrot in front of me. I am not sure if they disappoint me next month, but I am still keeping my hopes. Hopefully, I would get over this and have enough sleep from today.
I met a guy yesterday who applied for GC in 1998. EB3-I. Has not got his GC yet. You would expect him to feel worse than what you feel. But he was completely relaxed. Reason, he does not expect his GC anymore.
Be happy that your PD is going to be current. But remove any expectation. If you get the GC, enjoy and party. If you do not, you will get it soon sometime later. Once the expectation of something is out, you will suffer less.
I met a guy yesterday who applied for GC in 1998. EB3-I. Has not got his GC yet. You would expect him to feel worse than what you feel. But he was completely relaxed. Reason, he does not expect his GC anymore.
Be happy that your PD is going to be current. But remove any expectation. If you get the GC, enjoy and party. If you do not, you will get it soon sometime later. Once the expectation of something is out, you will suffer less.
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meridiani.planum
07-20 03:37 AM
History does not repeat itself. The historians repeat one another.
Max Beerbohm
Sir Beerbohm was a parodist. I hope you have not taken something he said in satire and made it your life's mission statement ;)
If we are going to quote humorists, heres one that shares my view:
You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself. ~ Samuel Levenson
I guess it does make life more exciting when we make decisions without thoughts to the past but I prefer learning from others experiences. Rather make new mistakes than do something stupid that 3 other people had already done.
You are of course entitled to your own views on life and debating this is perhaps of no use.
Max Beerbohm
Sir Beerbohm was a parodist. I hope you have not taken something he said in satire and made it your life's mission statement ;)
If we are going to quote humorists, heres one that shares my view:
You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself. ~ Samuel Levenson
I guess it does make life more exciting when we make decisions without thoughts to the past but I prefer learning from others experiences. Rather make new mistakes than do something stupid that 3 other people had already done.
You are of course entitled to your own views on life and debating this is perhaps of no use.
Madhuri
07-21 02:25 PM
E-Filed: May 30th, 2008
FP: June 26th, 2008
AD: Pending.
FP: June 26th, 2008
AD: Pending.
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waitingnwaiting
05-12 12:17 PM
Pappu,
Reality is DREAM act is directly connected to HISPANIC votes for Democrats, EB community doesnt have any VOTING rights, neither they get any support from the folks who are already GC/UScitizenship holders.
Once people are out of this GC mess, they all start talking about anti immigration and that's the reality, u go to any indian community around and see how much support you have from those folks who have GC/US citizenship.
I agree.
Citizens want to either start consulting companies and get H1B employees or want to stop more Indians coming. More Indians mean less jobs for their children.
Green card holders do not even want to be friends with H1B.
H1B do not want to be friends with F1.
H1 girls want to be married to citizen or Green card holders. Or someone with EB2 PD.
Green card IV members do not even want to come back here.
Reality is DREAM act is directly connected to HISPANIC votes for Democrats, EB community doesnt have any VOTING rights, neither they get any support from the folks who are already GC/UScitizenship holders.
Once people are out of this GC mess, they all start talking about anti immigration and that's the reality, u go to any indian community around and see how much support you have from those folks who have GC/US citizenship.
I agree.
Citizens want to either start consulting companies and get H1B employees or want to stop more Indians coming. More Indians mean less jobs for their children.
Green card holders do not even want to be friends with H1B.
H1B do not want to be friends with F1.
H1 girls want to be married to citizen or Green card holders. Or someone with EB2 PD.
Green card IV members do not even want to come back here.
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jonty_11
06-07 12:21 PM
Dont worry after teh CIRcus in senate for the last feweks..I think no one will dare touch the immigration issue until 2008 Pres Eelctions now...This bill will defintely die away.
royus77
06-27 03:37 PM
I understand that there is lot of fear among applicants that USCIS might retrogress the dates interimly sometime in july due to the expected high volume of applications filing in the begining of july.
To minimize the chance of USCIS from taking any such steps, shall we all unite and file the applications on a specific date in july probably on 30th of july? This will accomodate all applicants...so that we shall all be winners and use this opportunity to our advantage instead of competing amongst each other...where only a few will be winners and others will be loosers.
This will also reduce the pressure among applicants , attorneys and doctors.
Can the AILA cooperate? Will there be unity amongst applicants to make this possible??? any ideas ??
rajakannan Nice idea. We should wait another month so that some of our friends who didn't apply the LC will do it immediatly and all of us will file on Aug 29 .....
To minimize the chance of USCIS from taking any such steps, shall we all unite and file the applications on a specific date in july probably on 30th of july? This will accomodate all applicants...so that we shall all be winners and use this opportunity to our advantage instead of competing amongst each other...where only a few will be winners and others will be loosers.
This will also reduce the pressure among applicants , attorneys and doctors.
Can the AILA cooperate? Will there be unity amongst applicants to make this possible??? any ideas ??
rajakannan Nice idea. We should wait another month so that some of our friends who didn't apply the LC will do it immediatly and all of us will file on Aug 29 .....
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Lisap
08-22 12:33 PM
I am in the exact same situation as you are. I realized on Friday the 10th (by reading threads on here) that my attorney filed before I was current. My attorney said (although I dont know if this is true) that he was willing to argue that they should accept the application. I didn't take my chances and refiled my application. I hope that your attorney does everything that he can for you to get your application back in. If nothing else you should atleast try getting your money back and hiring a new attorney.
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immuser
08-08 12:11 PM
Good question. I am in the same situation. My GG was approved Aug 6th and happen to attend an interview the same day.
I already used AC21 and may have used it second time for this if GC was not approved. So question is can you switch jobs within day of receiving CG ?
From forum search, it does seem ok to switch jobs. Its hard for me to find a valid reason on why we need to stick to the employer for 6 months or 1 yr.
There are cautious people (to say it right, paranoid people to put it blunt) who will not use AC21 or have the theory of sticking to employer for 6 months or 1 yr.
I am still pondering, but leaning strongly towards switching job if the offer is good.
I already used AC21 and may have used it second time for this if GC was not approved. So question is can you switch jobs within day of receiving CG ?
From forum search, it does seem ok to switch jobs. Its hard for me to find a valid reason on why we need to stick to the employer for 6 months or 1 yr.
There are cautious people (to say it right, paranoid people to put it blunt) who will not use AC21 or have the theory of sticking to employer for 6 months or 1 yr.
I am still pondering, but leaning strongly towards switching job if the offer is good.
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Kitiara
02-12 04:52 AM
Kit your castle was wild, was it done from a photograph? Yeah, I used one of my old holiday snaps as a reference. One of the places I used to get taken on holiday to when I was a kid was up near Gloucester, and there was this old ruined castle. Used to love going there, and in the middle of this battle I suddenly remembered it and dug out my old photos. Had that next to me while I was drawing it. :)
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gclabor07
12-01 12:21 PM
Pappu,
Thanks for the great analysis. One suggestion for USCIS. They need to make EB GC process a linear one, meaning that you file for labor, then I-140, and I-485 as soon as your first two stages are cleared. Concurrent filing process is a hit or miss. It doesn't make sense anymore when you've so much retrogression.
This linear approach will be good for USCIS for two reasons:
1. They will get constant flow of applications rather than all at once. Plus they can control it by regulating the flow of I-140 approvals.
2. They will be able to better predict the visa movement based on their inventory.
For people like me, it will be good for two reasons:
1. I'll enjoy similar EAD/AP benefits that most of the people enjoy who filed during July 07.
2. No more H1B stamping.
Thanks.
Thanks for the great analysis. One suggestion for USCIS. They need to make EB GC process a linear one, meaning that you file for labor, then I-140, and I-485 as soon as your first two stages are cleared. Concurrent filing process is a hit or miss. It doesn't make sense anymore when you've so much retrogression.
This linear approach will be good for USCIS for two reasons:
1. They will get constant flow of applications rather than all at once. Plus they can control it by regulating the flow of I-140 approvals.
2. They will be able to better predict the visa movement based on their inventory.
For people like me, it will be good for two reasons:
1. I'll enjoy similar EAD/AP benefits that most of the people enjoy who filed during July 07.
2. No more H1B stamping.
Thanks.
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pasupuleti
04-02 11:53 AM
sent both faxes
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snathan
02-28 02:18 PM
...It goes without saying that as much as the United States has a duty to protect its citizens it also has a duty to be equally diplomatic toward foreigners and not continue persecuting the one or the other long after any condemning sentence has been exacted and executed.
I have nothing to be sorry for. I�m still paying my dues along with my family and we�re all grateful for the opportunity to redeem ourselves. It�s time we are recognized. I�m struggling with the principal of the matter. I�m not as bad as immigration is trying to make me out to be.
The government is telling my family I am not an adequate person to form a family with in the U.S. because I was deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of marijuana, yet it is granting the 212(d)(3) Waiver for Non-Immigrant Visas to Aliens deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of marijuana and who wish to travel to the U.S.. United States Citizens need an Immigrant Visas Waiver available to their Alien Immediate Relatives deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of Marijuana in order to even the scales on both U.S. citizen and Alien immigration privileges concerning Deported Aliens with a Drug-Related Offence of More than 30 Grams of Marijuana.
The way things are now U.S. citizens without a criminal conviction and with Alien Immediate Relatives are being discriminated against by their own government. The needs of deported Aliens with criminal convictions are being placed before their own.
It�s pure hypocrisy and it�s my family�s and my name being placed on the line.
I mean, really, how great can the U.S. be if it�s willing to lose their citizens to aliens like me when they decide to move outside of the United States to join their Immediate and shunned Alien Relatives? The U.S. government�s violation of my family�s civil human rights to liberty, freedom of expression and equality before the law is unwarranted. My U.S. family�s civil liberties to equal protection under the law, to due process and privacy are being discriminated against, they are not receiving fair treatment.
Whatever the crap it is...This forum and its members can not and will not support you. So please dont waste out time.
I have nothing to be sorry for. I�m still paying my dues along with my family and we�re all grateful for the opportunity to redeem ourselves. It�s time we are recognized. I�m struggling with the principal of the matter. I�m not as bad as immigration is trying to make me out to be.
The government is telling my family I am not an adequate person to form a family with in the U.S. because I was deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of marijuana, yet it is granting the 212(d)(3) Waiver for Non-Immigrant Visas to Aliens deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of marijuana and who wish to travel to the U.S.. United States Citizens need an Immigrant Visas Waiver available to their Alien Immediate Relatives deported with a drug-related offence of more than 30 grams of Marijuana in order to even the scales on both U.S. citizen and Alien immigration privileges concerning Deported Aliens with a Drug-Related Offence of More than 30 Grams of Marijuana.
The way things are now U.S. citizens without a criminal conviction and with Alien Immediate Relatives are being discriminated against by their own government. The needs of deported Aliens with criminal convictions are being placed before their own.
It�s pure hypocrisy and it�s my family�s and my name being placed on the line.
I mean, really, how great can the U.S. be if it�s willing to lose their citizens to aliens like me when they decide to move outside of the United States to join their Immediate and shunned Alien Relatives? The U.S. government�s violation of my family�s civil human rights to liberty, freedom of expression and equality before the law is unwarranted. My U.S. family�s civil liberties to equal protection under the law, to due process and privacy are being discriminated against, they are not receiving fair treatment.
Whatever the crap it is...This forum and its members can not and will not support you. So please dont waste out time.
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pd_recapturing
06-19 03:21 PM
What if you apply 485 on your own and then, employer fires you just because, you did not abide by his rule. What would happen in that case ? I guess, in most of the cases where employer is creating problem with 485 filing, ppl might not be wanting to go on their own due to above mentioned problem.
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truthinspector
07-08 04:37 PM
Very poignant!
Who is to blame? In my opinion, US. Not U.S but us (we the people). On one hand you observe legal hispanic immigrants and business fighting for the cause of their community and on the other we conveniently forget our community as soon as we adopt this alien land. I live in the Bay Area and boy have I seen the marathi mandals, kannada sanghas, TANA, AATA, BATA and God knows how may orgranizations that represent our fractured presence in this country. We have shamelessly displayed our differences based on cultural backgrounds/needs. Sardar Patel's dream of "Ek akhand bharat" (one united India) seems to reverberate only when India plays Pakistan in a game of cricket. I wonder if people such as Vinod Khosla, Vinod Dham, Arun Netravali, Indra Nooyi understand or are are atleast cognizant of the issues their community is facing. For a wild second, imagine the above four making a few phone calls. I bet the impact will be huge.
Who is to blame? In my opinion, US. Not U.S but us (we the people). On one hand you observe legal hispanic immigrants and business fighting for the cause of their community and on the other we conveniently forget our community as soon as we adopt this alien land. I live in the Bay Area and boy have I seen the marathi mandals, kannada sanghas, TANA, AATA, BATA and God knows how may orgranizations that represent our fractured presence in this country. We have shamelessly displayed our differences based on cultural backgrounds/needs. Sardar Patel's dream of "Ek akhand bharat" (one united India) seems to reverberate only when India plays Pakistan in a game of cricket. I wonder if people such as Vinod Khosla, Vinod Dham, Arun Netravali, Indra Nooyi understand or are are atleast cognizant of the issues their community is facing. For a wild second, imagine the above four making a few phone calls. I bet the impact will be huge.
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paulavijit
06-01 02:27 PM
Votes YES.
YES count is only 961 though now.
YES count is only 961 though now.
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nefrateedi
08-22 04:12 PM
I can guarantee that u r screwed for next 3+ years if it was EB2 and next 6+ years if it was EB3.
Well, go ahead and cry in the bathroom now instead of actively supporting IV.
Give the guy a break...he's just asking around as to what his options are... besides, one can't 'GUARANTEE' for how long a period of time one would have to wait as far as priority dates are concerned. The July Fiasco confirmed that, if anything...I agree that the rally is very important in making further strides, however there's no reason to be so harsh...
abhidos37, unfortunately since your application was received when your priority date wasn't current, you're going to have to wait until your priority date becomes current again.
Good luck!
Well, go ahead and cry in the bathroom now instead of actively supporting IV.
Give the guy a break...he's just asking around as to what his options are... besides, one can't 'GUARANTEE' for how long a period of time one would have to wait as far as priority dates are concerned. The July Fiasco confirmed that, if anything...I agree that the rally is very important in making further strides, however there's no reason to be so harsh...
abhidos37, unfortunately since your application was received when your priority date wasn't current, you're going to have to wait until your priority date becomes current again.
Good luck!
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gsc999
09-20 07:20 PM
Thanks for playing your folk tunes, and singing and reciting poetry on stage at the rally! Please let us know the IV handle of the other guitarist and singer. Thanks for inviting me to join you but I am way too shy to sing on stage :o 3 cheers to abhijitp, you make CA proud!
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Did you guys know that Drona had a sprained ankle and she was on crutches when she landed at Dulles airport. Can you imagine the amount of commitment it takes to do this? Just amazing.
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mhssatya
01-28 08:52 AM
Sad to see students being punished like this. They are just taking advantage of the system and make some money, but not doing anything illegal. That's what we are all here for right? Make some money. If enrolling for F1 and working somewhere else is against rules, then why did USCIS issue F1 and CPT to the students.
Sorry all, i couldn't find video in english. But the video says it all.
Chip locks which are normally used against terrorists and criminals are used
on students of tri valley univeristy.
It's a human rights, privacy issue at it's peak..
It's heart breaking to see like this..
There may be scam from students, university but it's also problem from consulate, USCIS etc.
This is ridiculous..
YouTube - AP students face US deportation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFHw56fTwE&feature=player_embedded)
Sorry all, i couldn't find video in english. But the video says it all.
Chip locks which are normally used against terrorists and criminals are used
on students of tri valley univeristy.
It's a human rights, privacy issue at it's peak..
It's heart breaking to see like this..
There may be scam from students, university but it's also problem from consulate, USCIS etc.
This is ridiculous..
YouTube - AP students face US deportation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFHw56fTwE&feature=player_embedded)
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amit79
04-10 03:27 PM
I know there are some of good <desi> consulting companies..
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BharatPremi
11-30 03:45 PM
could members explain this further with more information and facts if possible. we have not been covering this in our media interviews and facts about hardships we face.
infact it would be better if finance gurus and others on the forum can help list various ways in which h1b visa holders suffer financially by not having a gc.
- mortgage rates are one.
1) Life Insurance ... AIG refuses to give me the quot for 30 years (Ready to give me a 20 year term life quot) term life insurance knowing I am on work visa, US GC is in process (Though I did not mention that I am Canadian permanent immigrant). AAA issued me a policy that is 20 years not 30 years (Simply refused) when I gave the proof of Canadian permanent immigration and US GC filing. This is most current experience.
2) After 2001 bubble burst many credit unions stopped taking H1B visa holders as member. I do not know the current practice.
3) I think in illinoi, I have heard that H4 people can't get driving licence simply as they do not have social security. Now legally H4 can not have social security and thus no driving license. ITIN would not be considered for driving license. This story I also heard a while back. I do not know about current situation.
4) In job, you can not have promotion, salary increment (Though Accounting workarounds ultimately can provide you what you want from the company).
5) 401 K investment can become risky if you will have to go out of uSA permanently in a sense of 10 % penalty for early withdraw. Ya, Somebody can say that then do not withdraw. In that case, managing it would be hell by sitting thousands of miles away from US.
6) You can not invest in Educational investments schemes ( Theoratically you can invest and they will take your money gladly) as those are ONE-WAY money, once gone you can not take out, only your children can take out. Now imagine you are on H1.. Invetsed money in eduction schemes for your children. Down the road after 10 years suddenly finding yourself in limbo you go back to your country... money is stuck.. ( I do not have full scale study of workarounds..Someone more elite on this subject can put mor light on this)
7) By any chance if you get kicked out (For whatever reason including you kicked out yourself) from USA before 10 years of work.. you loose all of your social security (Not applicable to people of all other countries, but ceratinly applicable to Indians)
infact it would be better if finance gurus and others on the forum can help list various ways in which h1b visa holders suffer financially by not having a gc.
- mortgage rates are one.
1) Life Insurance ... AIG refuses to give me the quot for 30 years (Ready to give me a 20 year term life quot) term life insurance knowing I am on work visa, US GC is in process (Though I did not mention that I am Canadian permanent immigrant). AAA issued me a policy that is 20 years not 30 years (Simply refused) when I gave the proof of Canadian permanent immigration and US GC filing. This is most current experience.
2) After 2001 bubble burst many credit unions stopped taking H1B visa holders as member. I do not know the current practice.
3) I think in illinoi, I have heard that H4 people can't get driving licence simply as they do not have social security. Now legally H4 can not have social security and thus no driving license. ITIN would not be considered for driving license. This story I also heard a while back. I do not know about current situation.
4) In job, you can not have promotion, salary increment (Though Accounting workarounds ultimately can provide you what you want from the company).
5) 401 K investment can become risky if you will have to go out of uSA permanently in a sense of 10 % penalty for early withdraw. Ya, Somebody can say that then do not withdraw. In that case, managing it would be hell by sitting thousands of miles away from US.
6) You can not invest in Educational investments schemes ( Theoratically you can invest and they will take your money gladly) as those are ONE-WAY money, once gone you can not take out, only your children can take out. Now imagine you are on H1.. Invetsed money in eduction schemes for your children. Down the road after 10 years suddenly finding yourself in limbo you go back to your country... money is stuck.. ( I do not have full scale study of workarounds..Someone more elite on this subject can put mor light on this)
7) By any chance if you get kicked out (For whatever reason including you kicked out yourself) from USA before 10 years of work.. you loose all of your social security (Not applicable to people of all other countries, but ceratinly applicable to Indians)
vishwak
11-12 07:36 AM
Lets make current for the benefit of every one :-)
C for all and collect money for 485 and retro in coming month???
Is that you mean. I believe there are lot of people who has Priority date before 08-May-06 and still waiting for GC.
Lets hope date remains same or jump couple of weeks a head.
C for all and collect money for 485 and retro in coming month???
Is that you mean. I believe there are lot of people who has Priority date before 08-May-06 and still waiting for GC.
Lets hope date remains same or jump couple of weeks a head.
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