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  • Berkeleybee
    02-15 09:38 PM
    Feb 15, 2006

    Today, four members of IV met with 3 staffers from Dianne Feinstein’s office in San Francisco.
    Two constituent services representatives, who deal with immigration problems on a daily basis (helping people with labor cert, I-140, I-485, security check etc problems) and one assistant field representative who interfaces with the Senator’s staff in DC on a whole host of issues.

    We spent 1.5 hours with them. We went through our presentation, answering questions and giving examples all the way. Then we spent some time talking about how they could help us, suggestions about what IV should do, and how we could work with them. All in all it was an excellent meeting – they were riveted through out – asked lots of questions and were very supportive.

    TAKEAWAYS

    1.Getting the Word Out to Lawmakers

    • They all said they learned a lot from our presentation – the people who deal with immigration problems on a nitty gritty daily level didn’t know the big picture on legal immigration, and the field representative didn’t know anything about the particular problems of legal EB immigrants.
    • The field representative said she had had three meeting with immigration related groups that day already, and that the Senator’s staff has been hearing about immigration a lot BUT this was the first time she was hearing about legal skilled immigrants!!
    • They thought our goals were reasonable and that they would be supportive. They thought we should reach out to as many other lawmakers as possible

    BOTTOM LINE: Do you want favorable legislation not to pass simply because people didn’t know about our problems??? No! We need to get the word out.

    2.Content

    • They repeatedly said they were impressed with our presentation (go check it out).
    • They liked the fact that we had an easy to read table which showed which of the current bills addressed some of our goals.
    • They liked the fact that we printed and bound two copies of the presentation to give them.
    • We also gave them copies of our tri-fold brochure
    • We also gave them a number tabbed, bound copy of the following

    -Must Read Documents on Legal Skilled Immigration

    a) CIS Ombudsman's Report:
    http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/CIS_AnnualReport_2005.pdf

    b) GAO Report on Backlogs at USCIS
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0620.pdf

    c) Exec Summary of NAS Rising Above a Gathering Storm
    http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html

    d) How Visa Date Cutoffs Are Established from July 2000 Bulletin
    http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/visa_bulletin/2000-07bulletin.html

    e) President’s Economic Report: Chapter 2: Skills for the U.S. Workforce.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/ch2-erp06.pdf

    3.Action Items
    • We decided to keep in touch – I will follow up on the feedback they get from the Senator’s DC staffers.
    • They wanted to know more about how our meetings with other lawmakers are going.
    • I offered to act as source of facts and examples for their office on these issues – since I have read the relevant documents and data carefully.
    • They suggested that we keep reaching out to members of the House – especially those who are in states without a lot of tech sector firms – those are the people who are least likely to know about our existence, let alone our problems.

    BOTTOM LINE: I will keep in touch with all three, sharing talking points and getting feedback.

    4. Lessons for future meetings with lawmakers/ Lessons for other states
    • Do not be intimidated by the idea of initiating a meeting with the staffers of lawmaker – they do this all the time, and are friendly, easy to talk to, it is their job to listen to you– just put yourselves in the mindset of someone telling a story to a friendly audience.
    • Get organized, print and bind copies of the presentation and additional docs listed above to give to them.
    • Do a dry run of the talk, so that you build a narrative patter to go with the slides – this worked really well in this meeting.
    • Whenever possible use examples from the experience of the IV members present to illustrate the point in the slide – for example when we were doing the I-485 Life with and Without Slide, we used Ollie and Neha’s experiences with layoffs and partner not being able to work
    • Ask how you can follow up with them, what they would like you to do
    • Write to thank them for their time and reiterate your basic points



    So people from other states – come on lets go!





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  • aparnak
    04-01 03:16 PM
    sent the fax.





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  • saiimmi
    01-18 10:49 AM
    Come on everyone. I am sure every one needs change from the status quo for better. If we need change we have to be the element of change. Please send in your letters today. It should hardly take 15 minutes.



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  • sjkumar
    05-01 11:10 AM
    Defence deals , trade , outsourcing and immigration have always been very closely related all these years . The main reason that Obama was in India was to sell American wares and the No 1 list of his agenda was the $10.1 Billion MMRCA deal apart from future contracts on India's Nuclear Power generation program.

    India on the other hand too has always lobbied the US on H1Bs and overall outsourcing issue and the deliberate maligning of Indian outsourcing companies was responded to with a warning by India that the US will be seriously disadvantaged in its other trade with India should US politicians continue to target Indian IT companies and IT engineers particularly.

    This was clear in the Doha talks starting in 2007 and later years in where India chose to bring specifically the H1-B visa issue always , although the Doha talks might not have been the right forum to bring such issues. ( see link below )

    India Links Visa Flap with Doha Talks (http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/may2007/gb20070518_492934.htm)

    "The country's Commerce & Industry Minister says stories of work visa abuse by outsourcing companies could hurt chances for a global trade deal "

    So the carrot of "Global trade" with India was being used very effectively so far by India to lobby for getting other concessions in the outsourcing industry and I am not sure how much this is going to be possible now .

    In reality the level of Indo US relations has reached has never been so low in recent times and the below articles aptly details out the causes and the sentiment.

    Nothing positive in Indo-US ties since nuclear deal - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-29/india/29487082_1_nuclear-deal-nuclear-liability-law-indian-nuclear-power-sector)

    "Its unclear whether he(Obama) will listen to his advisers to pay India back for its decision(MMRCA)."

    Outsourcing.. Immigration ...Trading.. India Opening couple of more sector for MNC to invest all are related.. Shortly we will hear news about India Opening Retail or some other sector for MNCs to invest or open shop.. Remember one of India's biggest Export is Skilled Man power .. be it IT engineers,Nurses,Plumbers etc...





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  • fearonlygod
    02-12 10:24 PM
    Hi Folks,

    I have already complained to State DOL since last 3 months and still their is no movement...i heard from one of my fellow employee at the precious employer that the guy received notice from DOL immediately but dont know what he did after that....and now he seems that he is closing down his company becoz most of people have left owing to his unethical pratices....he doesnt provides health insurance despite mentioning , says that leaves can be encahes only after a year..

    and now cooking a new story for rather than sending the w2 , telling that u should receive notice for 25 k from his lawyer....

    in india there is a proverb "ulta chor kotwaal ko daante" which exactly is the scenario ......

    lets see how it goes but nothing seem to be working at moment:confused:



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  • qtoask
    07-06 03:43 PM
    Members: can you request IV to endorse this ... more than 100 people are waiting to get hear 'YES' from core...


    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6025


    thank you





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  • help_please
    07-13 11:14 PM
    :confused: I found the information regarding both the senate and house bills on AILA's website. From my understanding, they are going to attach this version of the bill...hopefully, without any changes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)



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  • rustamehind
    07-19 10:08 AM
    My spouse is landing here on Aug 15. That leaves only one day to get medicals done. Any suggestions on how to handle this ? Can she skip skin test and take X-rays directly ?

    For skin PPD test , you have to go back to Doctor after 24-72 hours to show the reaction.If nothing comes up its good , but incase you are positive then you will have to go for XRay , so obviously you need to plan for more than 1 day.





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  • Almond
    07-17 11:24 AM
    I think a employee of immigration service center should get $100 bonus for completing one application. This will definitely improve their productivity.

    And with the new fee increases, that should be nooo problem right? :o



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  • chanduv23
    10-26 05:17 PM
    Another news making. Advice to all of Youngster Indians and Indians here by the India's outsourcing chop shop IT messihah Infosys Chief.

    Don't look at IT industry as means to settle abroad: Narayana Murthy - The Economic Times (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/Dont-look-at-IT-industry-as-means-to-settle-abroad-Murthy/articleshow/6815589.cms)

    Well, what is the point in saying it now, he should have said it in the 90s and early 2000 when industry was booming and people found a career path in coming to the US.
    Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.





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  • vallabhu
    04-02 02:00 PM
    sent both faxes #10 & 11



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  • bekugc
    07-19 11:11 AM
    Rolrblade,

    i guess i mispelt the statement, my response was to his idea of seeking an Emergency appointment.

    ofcourse, just normal rescheduling is absolutely do-able.

    i think our friend is trying for Emergency so that wife can get appt in chennai only.





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  • learning01
    04-02 08:20 AM
    Sent both faxes.



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  • vvr
    05-20 02:21 AM
    Way to shine guys ! Any more suggestions for a "brand new" quota ?





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  • walking_dude
    11-22 11:02 AM
    - What does corruption-back-home has to do with it? There is a more open political discourse here. We should either participate and let them know what we want, or they will do whatever they want ( like they tried to reduce EB quota to 90,000 in the last CIR).

    - I have been to many lawmaker Offices in Michigan, I have visited several lawmaker offices in DC (both in and out of Michigan). Over that, I went and testified before MI Senate Transportation committee when they were denying Driving Licences to all foreign workers.

    If you think they delayed your EAD for 120 days, why do you think they approved mine in 2 months flat, for full 2 years, even synchronizing the expiry date of the EAD with the validity of the new one (meaning, I didn't lose a single day)? May be they were angry that you weren't trying hard enough? :-)

    They don't control your life dude, unless you let them control it. We won't progress much unless we get over the habit of feeling scared at our own shadows.

    - Who's is talking about the USCIS here? The topic here is approaching the lawmakers. Transparent or not, didn't we convince them to give us 2 year EADs or not? Did you see AILA or Compete America do it for us? No, we did it ourselves as a community.

    - Frankly speaking most Americans support Immigrants. Otherwise why do you think Obama won the election, despite clearly supporting the CIR in public, where as Tom Tancredo couldn't get pass round one of the presidential primaries, and no one even heard about Duncan Hunter another hero of the immigrants.

    I agree, these anti-immigrants are vocal. But they are a minority. What they lack in numbers, they try to make up in decibels (volume). Their intent is to scare immigrants off America by making loud noises, the way KKK tried to scare African-Americans from voting by burning crosses, hanging nooses and such scare tactics.

    - I don't buy your theory that folks here are afraid to march for their rights. In a few more months thousands of "illegal" immigrants will be marching in the streets of DC, risking getting deported if caught. They have done it before, they got Obama elected and they'll march again.

    While legal immigrants lose sleep over getting EAD denied for posting on IV. What kind of a bizzaro world we are living in?

    - I have already made the relevant points. If we are so risk aversive we should have stayed Home, meaning our home countries. Why did we take the risk of our planes getting hit by lightning or sucked into a storm? Or some Immigration or custom officer going crazy and packing us off to Guantanamo Bay?

    A question to all EB immigrants - When will we give up our mental slavery?

    -Many in the immigrant community come from countries where corruption is endemic.

    -USCIS controls our economic freedom, movement, where we work and reside, and if we "rock the boat" our file might be "deep-sixed" and we would have no recourse. Who knows, a petty officer could browse a news group, read this and sick Home land security goons me. I would never know why. We don't all have the resources to hire powerful lawyers and fight for a couple years. Did they take 120 days to renew my EAD because I visited my congressional representative's staff? Maybe.

    -"Transparent" and "accountable" are words not often used to describe USCIS and her parent Homeland Security. But they do have complete authority over our lives. Kafka could write a book! (Oh, he did.)

    -Many Americans are now afraid to join political protests for fear of being arrested and hence losing their job, etc. Why should immigrants be more politically active than Americans? They are publicly targeted by politicians as causing all the problems in the land (Tancredo for example) with out any serious rebuke. In my country Tancredo saying things he's said would have been considered a hate crime.

    -There are many Americans (even level headed ones) that do not believe that immigrants have any right to push for change in US policy. Regardless of whether it is change for the better, and there is no other constituency to demand improvements. The argument goes that regardless of the request, if you don't like it you should go home. (Of course the answer is to flip it and say: should Americans be treated poorly when living in my country? Sheepish looks ensue...)

    -Depending upon your level of risk aversion, it is often rational for the immigrant (who's stay is tenuous) to stay home and be "good" which means pliant.

    In summary, the US scares the freak'n crap out of a lot of people. And so they "behave" as best they can. This should not be a revelation to the staffers.

    I don't agree that we should be pliant. We should be in their face because they deserve it.

    As for me, I've come to the point that I think being kicked out of the US would be like getting fired from a crappy job I didn't have the guts to quit. :D



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  • kosb
    07-21 02:44 PM
    Check Anti Antis: Conference call: To teach Antis how to post!!! (http://anti-antis.blogspot.com/2009/07/conference-call-to-teach-antis-how-to.html)
    Conference Call on Effective Posting - tomorrow, July 21st at 7:15pm
    Businessweek will be posting their article on H-1b exploitation on Wednesday. Join me to discuss why the "culture of bypass" is the necessary precondition to create the "culture of exploitation."


    So this confirms FIRMLY that antis and BusinessWeek are working in tandem against legal immigration reform. Sometime back.. I read that BusinessWeek is for sale.. by McGraw Hill (its parent company). I wish.. that sale happens soon and let common sense prevail. Probably they are trying too hard to shore up their subscriber base by evoking the last resort.. creating sensation with meaningless issues.





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  • roseball
    11-06 05:44 PM
    Yes, I am not taking her words as unwritten law as we all know that NC is killing many people for years. So I would request to take that as a guide line.

    Another meaning I can extract is if today you took infopass for NC and got nothing or "pending" do not bother yourself next 4 months for inquiry.

    On a side note, I was wondering what happens to derivative/secondary beneficiaries 485 applications if the primary beneficiary is stuck in name check.....If secondary beneficiaries are cleared and primary is not, then does USCIS approve GCs for secondary beneficiaries..





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  • TwinkleM
    07-15 02:29 AM
    Applied for H1B. We already have the H1B approval notices. We also have EAD/AP. Still we got dragged into this.

    The H1B sponsoring company is a large and famous Biopharma company with billions in market cap. AOS is also through the I-140 from that company.

    Everything is way above board for us. Still we got stuck!

    Can you please let know, where is the passport stuck? What country & which consulate.

    Also, was this for new H1 B visa or transfer? If new, I assume, it is not first one, am I right?

    Thanx in Advance





    walking_dude
    11-21 11:57 PM
    I have talked to IV leadership and they have agreed to hold a rally in March 1st Week, if sufficient numbers indicate willingness to participate.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=303461

    So can we please stop blaming IV leaders and start showing them our support by indicating our support?




    We need the IV core team and the administrator to guide some big rally's. Guys nothing will happen until we are bold about our intentions.
    I noticed everyone comes up with their different ideas, but no one works to implement it. We need to stand together and do something big, when was the last time we had a big rally?

    We all have our own problems, life in America is not simple, but in order for us to accomplish something we all need to unite and do something big, the problem is lately IV thinks too much and has less of ACTION





    eb_retrogession
    04-01 07:03 PM
    Faxes sent.

    Thanks everyone for your hardwork.



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